Sunday, July 27, 2008

Message to Green Party: Butt-Out of Real Politics

Keith Locke:

Hot on the heels of the Condi Rice bounty charade, Keith Locke of the NZ Communist - excuse me - Green Party issued a press release. Read what this self-aggrandizing troll had to say:
Police must butt out of politics during Rice visit
Friday, 25 July 2008, 3:57 pm
Press Release: Green Party

25 July 2008

Police must butt out of politics during Rice visit

It is a constitutional affront for the Police to threaten students wishing to conduct a citizen's arrest of visiting US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Green Party MP Keith Locke says.
Hey, Keith, one man's "threat" is another man's "warning."
The Auckland District Commander, Superintendent Brett England, has issued a press release vowing to stop any such arrest.

"The Police should stick to security issues, not get involved in politics," Mr Locke, Green Party Police and Foreign Affairs Spokesperson, says.
Ummm, Keith, the Green Party should stick to saving whales and snails and not get involved in politics.

I would argue that Mr. England has done his job in "warning" these students of the serious consequences that could result from the stupidity of such futile actions, and I would also argue that it falls under the scope of "security issues." Again, I would say that anybody who tried such a foolhardy action would be a lucky person if they were apprehended by the NZ Police first. If they happened to get past the NZ Police and had to deal with the US Secret Service detachment guarding Dr. Rice they would probably not fare so well.
"The job of the Police is to prevent harm coming to Ms Rice, not stopping a student from initiating legal proceedings through a citizen's arrest.

"It is at least arguable that a legal case against Ms Rice might stand up. The Police should not be taking one side or the other.
It is also arguable that the Police are not "taking sides" in issuing a "warning" that could prevent a tragedy. I don't see how pointing-out the realities of a situation amounts to "taking sides." I see it as pointing out the cold, hard facts of life.
"Under the International Crimes and International Criminal Court Act 2000, proceedings can be taken against people visiting New Zealand who have been responsible for torture, or the launching of attacks which cause civilian casualties 'clearly excessive' to military objectives.
Keith, you and the rest of your lefty cohorts have been smoking "clearly excessive" amounts of cannabis. I can see that you are such a man of your convictions that you were out there leading the charge to arrest Dr. Rice...

And "clearly excessive" military objectives? What the fuck would you know about that, Keith? While I think that the Iraq conflict was and is a complete waste of time, US tax payers' money, and the lives of over 4,000 dead and thousands more injured US troops, let me show you what "clearly excessive" force would have been had it been the objective of the US military:
"It can certainly be argued that both these things have happened in Iraq, under the Secretary of State's watch. Also, there are reports that previously, when she was the President's national security advisor, Ms Rice chaired official meetings where 'enhanced interrogation' or torture methods were approved. The Bush administration has yet to categorically rule out the use of all forms of torture.
Yes, and it can also be argued AND PROVEN that these things occurred under Saddam's rule of Iraq which would justify, under the same international laws you cited, the invasion, ousting and subsequent capture, trial, conviction, and sentencing of Saddam. So what's your point?
"Our Government, for its part, should point out to Ms Rice the contradiction between her tough stance against dictators in Zimbabwe, the Sudan and Burma, and the serious erosion of human rights in her own jurisdiction, not least at the Guantanamo Bay detention centre."
Let me put this as gently as I can, and please, common sense Kiwis, don't take offense: NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT WHAT THE NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT THINKS!!!! You have no economic, political, military, or other influence over anybody except maybe a handful of small island nations in the South Pacific. In the grand scope of world affairs you amount to the equivalent of a flea on a dog's ass. Accept it. Deal with it, and stop taking yourselves so seriously with your self-righteous, over-inflated sense of self-importance and hubris that sounds like the naive rantings of a petulant adolescent.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

You show a similar lack of comprehension of reality if you blame this sort of drivel on cannabis .

Other than that single misrepresentation , good blog.


6:38 PM GMT+12  
Blogger Joe Ramen said...

Tony, sorry if there was some confusion there. I wasn't blaming anything on cannabis use. It was a dig on how Locke has no understanding of what is "clearly excessive", not on cannabis. I could have (and maybe should have) written "egg shells" instead of "cannabis". I hope that clears things up.

Glad you like the blog.

7:24 PM GMT+12  
Blogger Oldcatman said...

The pot made me do it!


I use to post a 'world newspaper of the day' just to see what other countries were thinking about whatever the USA
was screwing with.

I think every country has
a 'say of sorts' of what goes on around their world---with nuclear bombs around they sort of have a right opinionate.

Now whether or not they can influence US, is another story.

Good luck.....

Joe, about that pot reference, BONG!


You also failed to cross
3 't's in the first 2 paragraphs!

6:45 AM GMT+12  

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